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Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS The West has the lowest. Long distance to fire department – closer is better. Limited fire department and dispatch capability – ISO assigns fire departments Public Protection Classification (PPC) Class from 1 to 10 for use by insurance companies. Class 1 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance 11 MYTHS ABOUT GUN SAFE THEFT PROTECTION Myth: My gun safe is so heavy, I don’t have to bolt it down. This is one of the biggest myths. Installing a gun safe without anchoring by bolting it down is like putting on a motorcycle helmet but not fastening the chin strap. The un-anchored gun safe looks like it’s doing something, but at the first sign of trouble it’s going todisappear.
Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE The walls and top/bottom sides of a gun safe are the thinnest and easiest sides to hack or cut through. Get a gun safe with no thinner than a 10 gauge (0.1345″) single sheet in the gun safe walls. The 12 gauge steel in most gun safes is only good for keeping honest peopleout.
WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Assess Your Risk and Desired Protection – the best way to save money on a gun safe is not to waste money on protection you don’t need.; Cover Your Assets – no gun safe is 100% secure, so proper insurance is important.; Layer Security Features – the key to security is multiple layers.. 1. Avoid Being Targeted – some tricks gun thieves use to target owners and how to stop them. LINKS AND REFERENCES Chuck Hawk’s Things to Consider When Buying a Gun Safe – Gun writer/editor Chuck Hawks has been a great source of shooting information for me over the years. This article is a guest post and not written by Chuck. It’s a bit outdated and emphasizes dubious marketing features like large locking bolts, but makes some goodpoints.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Cosmetic Features. Chrome and glossy enamel paint look great on a gun safe. However, cosmetic features add a lot to the price of a gun safe. The most secure commercial safes look pretty utilitarian with flat gray paint jobs because all the money is in the steel. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Group 1R locks aren’t common on gun safes. Their gate materials are made out of plastics to prevent x-ray imaging. Most gun safe owners would prefer to have metal for reliability, although plastics have come a long way. Get a gun safe with combination locks of UL 768 GroupII or better.
100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE If your home or desired location can’t handle the weight of a full size commercial safe, get a smaller true safes for your handguns. Handguns are the most frequently stolen firearms ().Have a safesmith put an electronic keypad lock on a smaller used safe and use it for quick access to your home defense pistol, as well as your wife’s jewelry and other portable valuables besides guns. Q&A: PROTECTING CASH AND HANDGUNS ON A BUDGET If you can afford one, a TL-15 is a great choice for a pistol safe with a large quantity of cash. Properly anchored, it should keep thieves out even with power tools. Hiding it will even add more protection. For most pistol collections a TL-15 would be overkill; but Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. BEST GUN SAFES BY CATEGORY Without a minimum rating of UL RSC-I, a cheap gun safe is basically an overpriced gym locker. Often non-RSC cheap gun safes also come with an unreliable lock.. In that case you’re better off buying a toolbox, gun cabinet, building a closet gun safe, hidden gun safe, or one of the many other gun safe alternatives. I’ve put together a list of over 100 money saving ways to protect your guns. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. BEST GUN SAFES BY CATEGORY Without a minimum rating of UL RSC-I, a cheap gun safe is basically an overpriced gym locker. Often non-RSC cheap gun safes also come with an unreliable lock.. In that case you’re better off buying a toolbox, gun cabinet, building a closet gun safe, hidden gun safe, or one of the many other gun safe alternatives. I’ve put together a list of over 100 money saving ways to protect your guns. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE BUYING A GUN SAFE 9 Myths about Gun Safe Fire Ratings. “Fireproof” gun safes are not constructed the same way as true fire-rated safes. To save costs, most gun safe manufactures use $10 to $20 of drywall (Sheetrock) as fire lining, and then charge you a premium for it. Fireproof gun safes can not meet industry standard tests for fireproof safes. WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE The walls and top/bottom sides of a gun safe are the thinnest and easiest sides to hack or cut through. Get a gun safe with no thinner than a 10 gauge (0.1345″) single sheet in the gun safe walls. The 12 gauge steel in most gun safes is only good for keeping honest peopleout.
100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Assess Your Risk and Desired Protection – the best way to save money on a gun safe is not to waste money on protection you don’t need.; Cover Your Assets – no gun safe is 100% secure, so proper insurance is important.; Layer Security Features – the key to security is multiple layers.. 1. Avoid Being Targeted – some tricks gun thieves use to target owners and how to stop them. LINKS AND REFERENCES Chuck Hawk’s Things to Consider When Buying a Gun Safe – Gun writer/editor Chuck Hawks has been a great source of shooting information for me over the years. This article is a guest post and not written by Chuck. It’s a bit outdated and emphasizes dubious marketing features like large locking bolts, but makes some goodpoints.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Cosmetic Features. Chrome and glossy enamel paint look great on a gun safe. However, cosmetic features add a lot to the price of a gun safe. The most secure commercial safes look pretty utilitarian with flat gray paint jobs because all the money is in the steel. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Group 1R locks aren’t common on gun safes. Their gate materials are made out of plastics to prevent x-ray imaging. Most gun safe owners would prefer to have metal for reliability, although plastics have come a long way. Get a gun safe with combination locks of UL 768 GroupII or better.
100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE If your home or desired location can’t handle the weight of a full size commercial safe, get a smaller true safes for your handguns. Handguns are the most frequently stolen firearms ().Have a safesmith put an electronic keypad lock on a smaller used safe and use it for quick access to your home defense pistol, as well as your wife’s jewelry and other portable valuables besides guns. READER QUESTIONS & ANSWERS First Published Apr 9, 2014. Subject: gun safes Message Body: Have you reviewed the Hornady Rapid Safe, gun safe yet? Hi B. , Thanks for checking out my website. I haven’t reviewed that particular model, but it falls into the category of small gun safes with un-rated electronic locks. Electronic locks that haven’t been Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS The West has the lowest. Long distance to fire department – closer is better. Limited fire department and dispatch capability – ISO assigns fire departments Public Protection Classification (PPC) Class from 1 to 10 for use by insurance companies. Class 1 11 MYTHS ABOUT GUN SAFE THEFT PROTECTION Myth: My gun safe is so heavy, I don’t have to bolt it down. This is one of the biggest myths. Installing a gun safe without anchoring by bolting it down is like putting on a motorcycle helmet but not fastening the chin strap. The un-anchored gun safe looks like it’s doing something, but at the first sign of trouble it’s going todisappear.
9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS The West has the lowest. Long distance to fire department – closer is better. Limited fire department and dispatch capability – ISO assigns fire departments Public Protection Classification (PPC) Class from 1 to 10 for use by insurance companies. Class 1 11 MYTHS ABOUT GUN SAFE THEFT PROTECTION Myth: My gun safe is so heavy, I don’t have to bolt it down. This is one of the biggest myths. Installing a gun safe without anchoring by bolting it down is like putting on a motorcycle helmet but not fastening the chin strap. The un-anchored gun safe looks like it’s doing something, but at the first sign of trouble it’s going todisappear.
9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
BEST GUN SAFES BY CATEGORY Without a minimum rating of UL RSC-I, a cheap gun safe is basically an overpriced gym locker. Often non-RSC cheap gun safes also come with an unreliable lock.. In that case you’re better off buying a toolbox, gun cabinet, building a closet gun safe, hidden gun safe, or one of the many other gun safe alternatives. I’ve put together a list of over 100 money saving ways to protect your guns. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE BUYING A GUN SAFE 9 Myths about Gun Safe Fire Ratings. “Fireproof” gun safes are not constructed the same way as true fire-rated safes. To save costs, most gun safe manufactures use $10 to $20 of drywall (Sheetrock) as fire lining, and then charge you a premium for it. Fireproof gun safes can not meet industry standard tests for fireproof safes. 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Assess Your Risk and Desired Protection – the best way to save money on a gun safe is not to waste money on protection you don’t need.; Cover Your Assets – no gun safe is 100% secure, so proper insurance is important.; Layer Security Features – the key to security is multiple layers.. 1. Avoid Being Targeted – some tricks gun thieves use to target owners and how to stop them. WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. LINKS AND REFERENCES Chuck Hawk’s Things to Consider When Buying a Gun Safe – Gun writer/editor Chuck Hawks has been a great source of shooting information for me over the years. This article is a guest post and not written by Chuck. It’s a bit outdated and emphasizes dubious marketing features like large locking bolts, but makes some goodpoints.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE The walls and top/bottom sides of a gun safe are the thinnest and easiest sides to hack or cut through. Get a gun safe with no thinner than a 10 gauge (0.1345″) single sheet in the gun safe walls. The 12 gauge steel in most gun safes is only good for keeping honest peopleout.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Cosmetic Features. Chrome and glossy enamel paint look great on a gun safe. However, cosmetic features add a lot to the price of a gun safe. The most secure commercial safes look pretty utilitarian with flat gray paint jobs because all the money is in the steel. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Group 1R locks aren’t common on gun safes. Their gate materials are made out of plastics to prevent x-ray imaging. Most gun safe owners would prefer to have metal for reliability, although plastics have come a long way. Get a gun safe with combination locks of UL 768 GroupII or better.
100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE If your home or desired location can’t handle the weight of a full size commercial safe, get a smaller true safes for your handguns. Handguns are the most frequently stolen firearms ().Have a safesmith put an electronic keypad lock on a smaller used safe and use it for quick access to your home defense pistol, as well as your wife’s jewelry and other portable valuables besides guns. HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS The West has the lowest. Long distance to fire department – closer is better. Limited fire department and dispatch capability – ISO assigns fire departments Public Protection Classification (PPC) Class from 1 to 10 for use by insurance companies. Class 1 11 MYTHS ABOUT GUN SAFE THEFT PROTECTION Myth: My gun safe is so heavy, I don’t have to bolt it down. This is one of the biggest myths. Installing a gun safe without anchoring by bolting it down is like putting on a motorcycle helmet but not fastening the chin strap. The un-anchored gun safe looks like it’s doing something, but at the first sign of trouble it’s going todisappear.
9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
HONEST GUN SAFE REVIEWS, TRUSTED SINCE 2013 Honest Gun Safe Reviews. This site is dedicated to sharing the truth about gun safes. That means the good, the bad, and the ugly that you won’t find most anywhere else. If you’re in a hurry, in 4 minutes you can cover the most important things you need to know. Click here to read the 4 Minute Gun Safe FAQ. Choosing a gun safe is not easy. GUN SAFE BUYER'S GUIDE A true safe will be needed to defeat power tools designed to cut metal. True safes large enough for guns will run you $2,000 to $15,000 brand new depending on size, security level, and fire protection. These monsters can weigh into the tons, so add 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Once the door jamb is secure, the next part to worry about is the vulnerable area between the locks and edge of the door. Even new steel faced security doors like the one in the picture are vulnerable to the deadbolt ripping out of the door. ISSUES WITH BIOMETRIC GUN SAFES Many biometric gun safes also have flimsy key locks as “backups”. The key locks can often be opened with a standard screwdriver or strip of metal. Fundamental security issues on devices with cheap fingerprint readers aren’t just limited to gun safes. This biometric fingerprint door lock was opened by just sticking a paperclip in the 16 REASONS TO OWN A GUN SAFE (AND 12 REASONS NOT TO) 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe 1. Gun Safety. Controlling who has access to your guns is fundamental to gun safety. Burglars are first and foremost, but also anyone else who may be in your home: children, visitors, babysitters, house-sitters, friends with spare keys, etc. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: The basement is the most protected area in a home fire. – A common misconception that may guarantee your guns are ruined in a serious fire. Myth: Ammunition is protected in my fireproof gun safe. – Many people don’t think about the dangers of storing ammo in their gun safe. Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. 9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS The West has the lowest. Long distance to fire department – closer is better. Limited fire department and dispatch capability – ISO assigns fire departments Public Protection Classification (PPC) Class from 1 to 10 for use by insurance companies. Class 1 11 MYTHS ABOUT GUN SAFE THEFT PROTECTION Myth: My gun safe is so heavy, I don’t have to bolt it down. This is one of the biggest myths. Installing a gun safe without anchoring by bolting it down is like putting on a motorcycle helmet but not fastening the chin strap. The un-anchored gun safe looks like it’s doing something, but at the first sign of trouble it’s going todisappear.
9 MYTHS ABOUT FIREPROOF GUN SAFE FIRE RATINGS Myth: My gun safe is waterproof. A couple manufacturers have started claiming that their gun safes are waterproof. Generally they claim that their safe will survive a flood in a certain depth of water for a certain number of hours. Based on the performance Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE BUYING A GUN SAFE 9 Myths about Gun Safe Fire Ratings. “Fireproof” gun safes are not constructed the same way as true fire-rated safes. To save costs, most gun safe manufactures use $10 to $20 of drywall (Sheetrock) as fire lining, and then charge you a premium for it. Fireproof gun safes can not meet industry standard tests for fireproof safes. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE The walls and top/bottom sides of a gun safe are the thinnest and easiest sides to hack or cut through. Get a gun safe with no thinner than a 10 gauge (0.1345″) single sheet in the gun safe walls. The 12 gauge steel in most gun safes is only good for keeping honest peopleout.
WHERE TO PUT A GUN SAFE, FIND THE BEST PLACE Putting holes in the wall and its fire insulation can reduce the fire rating. Floor mounting bolt holes are in the part of a gun safe which will be the coolest in a fire. This is the best place to have holes in the fire insulation. Bolting the gun safe to the wall isn’t always practical because of baseboard trim. 100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE Assess Your Risk and Desired Protection – the best way to save money on a gun safe is not to waste money on protection you don’t need.; Cover Your Assets – no gun safe is 100% secure, so proper insurance is important.; Layer Security Features – the key to security is multiple layers.. 1. Avoid Being Targeted – some tricks gun thieves use to target owners and how to stop them. LINKS AND REFERENCES Chuck Hawk’s Things to Consider When Buying a Gun Safe – Gun writer/editor Chuck Hawks has been a great source of shooting information for me over the years. This article is a guest post and not written by Chuck. It’s a bit outdated and emphasizes dubious marketing features like large locking bolts, but makes some goodpoints.
WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Cosmetic Features. Chrome and glossy enamel paint look great on a gun safe. However, cosmetic features add a lot to the price of a gun safe. The most secure commercial safes look pretty utilitarian with flat gray paint jobs because all the money is in the steel. WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A GUN SAFE BUYING GUIDE Group 1R locks aren’t common on gun safes. Their gate materials are made out of plastics to prevent x-ray imaging. Most gun safe owners would prefer to have metal for reliability, although plastics have come a long way. Get a gun safe with combination locks of UL 768 GroupII or better.
100 MONEY-SAVING WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR GUNS. CHEAP GUN SAFE If your home or desired location can’t handle the weight of a full size commercial safe, get a smaller true safes for your handguns. Handguns are the most frequently stolen firearms ().Have a safesmith put an electronic keypad lock on a smaller used safe and use it for quick access to your home defense pistol, as well as your wife’s jewelry and other portable valuables besides guns. READER QUESTIONS & ANSWERS First Published Apr 9, 2014. Subject: gun safes Message Body: Have you reviewed the Hornady Rapid Safe, gun safe yet? Hi B. , Thanks for checking out my website. I haven’t reviewed that particular model, but it falls into the category of small gun safes with un-rated electronic locks. Electronic locks that haven’t been Q&A: AMSEC/GRAFFUNDER VAULT DOOR PRICE DIFFERENCE I took a look at the Graffunder and AMSEC vault doors. The Graffunder Series-V B-Rate with 1/2″ outer steel is probably the one you priced. It looks like AMSEC has two flavors, the 1/4″ outer VD803xSF and 1/2″ outer VD803xBF. I’m assuming you’re comparing Graffunder prices to the BF version, but there’s only about a 10%(~$500) list
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Choosing a gun safe is not easy. It’s actually harder than picking the guns inside it, or the house it sits in. What’s the minimum fire rating you should look for? How many locking bolts does a gunsafe really need?
Gun Safe Pried Open by Burglars Believe it or not, NEITHER OF THOSE SPEC’S IS USUALLY VERY IMPORTANT. For the fire rating to matter, it would have to be tested to an accepted standard. For the number of locking bolts to make any difference, they must be supported by a strong enough door and door frame. For most gun safes, neither is true. Gun safe companies have created a range of features to make their models seem better than their competitors’. These features are marketed to buyers, giving us the impression we’re buying more protection than we really are. Many of the features on today’s gun safes are basically jewelry designed to get our wallet out. AS A RESULT, MOST GUN SAFES ARE OVERPRICED FOR THE PROTECTION THEYACTUALLY GIVE YOU.
What do I mean? For the quick TL;DR (too long, didn’t read) answer, see the 4 minute summary in the Buyer’s Guide.
If you are interested in in-depth information, the six article series below is entitled What You Need to Know Before Buying a Gun Safe:
* 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe (and 12 Reasons Not To) – Some are obvious, others benefits of gun safes are not. I’ve included the many downsides of gun safes too. * 11 Myths about Gun Safe Theft Protection – Is any gun safe is better than nothing? Learn about burglary protection from pictures and videos of gun safes that have been attacked, weaknesses in gun safe construction, and hard statisticsfrom police.
* 9 Myths about Gun Safe Fire Ratings – What really happens in a home fire? “Fireproof” gun safes are less effective than gun safe companies want you to believe. * 100 Money-Saving Ways to Protect Your Guns–
Over 100 tips to consider before buying a gun safe, and tips that can make a cheap gun safe more secure. You might decide to avoid buyingone altogether.
* Where to Put a Gun Safe–
Will the location you’re thinking of put your guns in more danger? Where to put it and how to anchor it. * What to Look for in a Gun Safe – Comprehensive list of which features are worth the money, and which ones aren’t. * Mechanical Dial or Electronic Keypad Combination Lock? – Detailed comparison to answer one this common question. These articles put together are the length of a short novel. I tried to make it easy to read as little or as much as you want. Everything is here that I wanted to know before I spent thousands of my hardearned dollars.
In addition to traditional rectangular gun safes, there are many other options. These including modular gun safesthat you can
disassemble in case you move a lot, and for discrete installation. There are hidden gun safes disguised as couches and furniture so you don’t have to give up a closet. You can buy quick-access bedside gun safes, vehicle gun safes, wooden gun cabinets, and even buried gun safes. The Buyer’s Guide has a summary of all of the different commercially available gun safe options. Separate recommendation pages are devoted to the Best Gun Safes, as well
as for Small Gun Safesand
why I don’t recommend Biometric Gun Safes.
------------------------- MAKING SENSE OF GUN SAFE REVIEWS When I started looking for a gun safe I just wanted to protect my guns, get a good deal, and support American businesses. That was a lot harder than I expected. I researched this subject until my head was spinning. Thanks to the internet, there’s enough information to drown in. Unfortunately much of it is misleading or plain wrong. This Gun Safe had beautiful paint, but it was pried open with theseScrewdrivers.
For starters, most gun safe reviews aren’t useful. Every person seems to have their own rating criteria. Some guys describe safes as “solid” or “sturdy”, which I thought were flimsy. Some talked about how cheap it was, how good the paint was, or how great the shelving was. I wanted to know if it would actually stand up to a burglar or a house fire before I worried about the paint. Otherwise, I might as well buy a nicely-finished wood cabinet. Everyone who wrote a review right after buying a safe seemed happy with it, until the day it got stolen or broken into. Then their friends or the police shared photos of what was left.
Once I found gun safes that had actually tested by real burglaries and fires, things got interesting. I learned some surprising things, like: * Gun safes are not safes.
Most are closer to a gym locker than a safe. * Gun safe fire ratings means very little.
They’re not exactly made up out of thin air, but close to it. * The protection per dollar offered by most gun safes is low. Readers on a limited budget will be better off with the many gun safe alternatives, or buying a cheap gun safe and taking steps to make it more secure. You can find ideas for both in 100 Money-Saving Ways to Protect Your Guns.
* How and where the safe is installed, can be more important than which one you choose. A cheap gun safe, bolted down, in a good location, is often more secure than an expensive one, un-anchored, in a risky location. Make sure you know Where to Put a Gun Safe.
To make sure I didn’t buy a gun safe I regretted, I spent hundreds of hours researching gun safes. I talked to friends, family, and FFL dealers about their gun safes, researched burglaries and fires, reviewed gun safe failures, visited gun safe showrooms, talked to safe professionals, had discussions with friends who design biometric security products, poured over thousands of internet forum posts and reviews, and researched manufacturers and models. The internet gun forums and a few safe technicians that post there were a great source of information, but much of it is repetitive, unfocused, and poorly organized. It seemed like every few months another person would join and ask “I have $X to spend on a gun safe, what’s the best one?” Or, “I’m considering Brand Y or Brand Z gun safe, which is better?”, when both models had already been covered in hundreds ofposts.
GOALS OF GUN SAFE REVIEWS GUY Which brings us to the goals for this website: * Save gun owners time by providing a centralized and easy to read resource for learning about gun safes. * Separate the facts from the B.S. and marketing hype to so that you know exactly what you’re getting. * Save fellow gun owners from wasting our hard-earned money. What’s in this for me ? That’s a great question to ask before taking anyone’s advice. My gun safe research started for my personal purchases. Then I decided to put this site together to work on my writing and web design skills and see what blogging was all about. It’s taught me a lot about the realities of hosting a site on the web — from industry trolls, to other websites using “negative-SEO” (linking to this site from bad websites, duplicating my content, and sending SPAMemails in my name).
“Negative-SEO” links from a bad actor. The skull icons are a nice touch, he must feel like an evil genius in his mother’sbasement.
To help pay for the increasing costs of proper web hosting I’ve included advertisements. Where I’ve linked to a product sold online, if possible I included a commission link. If you buy something through the links, _at no cost to you_ I get a couple bucks for ammo. Likewise I added a donate button for anyone to contribute a couple dollars if youwish.
I make all recommendations honestly, which means usually there is no way for me to make a commission. For example, many of the best gunsafes for the money
are only
sold factory-direct, so I don’t get a penny. Most of the recommendations are actually products to _avoid_ buying. In general my advice is not to buy online anyway. Instead, buy American made gun safes or used commercial safes from your local safesmith. To me, in the long run supporting American workers and local businesses is more important than earning a few quick bucks. We gun owners already have enough to deal with in the current politicalclimate.
WHAT’S WITH ALL OF THESE GUN SAFE REVIEWS WEBSITES? At this point there are dozens of gun safe reviews websites. Where did they all come from? Internet search engines have created a new industry called Internet Niche Marketing. If someone searches for information like “gun safe reviews” on Google / Bing / etc., the search engine will try to find that information. Internet Marketers look through lists of what people are searching for to find “niche” search phrases. If they find one that meets their needs, they’ll make a website to provide that information and make money off of it. You’ve probably come across these Niche Marketing sites before. Some of them provide good information. Unfortunately most of them don’t really tell you anything. Or worse, some make recommendations based only on whatever pays the highest commission. These days, you’re probably aware that the same applies to manyYouTube channels.
HOW IS GUN SAFE REVIEWS GUY ANY DIFFERENT? Internet Niche Marketers often have hundreds of niche websites. They can cover completely unrelated areas from electric toothbrush reviews to bed bug treatments. The marketers often don’t know much about their topics, so pay others to write for them. Some pay for traffic (ads) to bring people to their site, just to sell that traffic to someone else. Their goals are to make as many commissions as possible, by maximizing traffic and recommending every product theycan.
Gun Safe Reviews Guy is an Online Information/Critic site. I belong to the gun community and care about it. My first priority is to provide honest information, like many other gun websites and forums have done for me. I recommend the same things here that I have bought myself, and suggest to my friends and family. If they didn’t like what I recommended for them, I would have to hear about it. Proper safe construction is a unique field that requires some research for most people (including me). Most companies don’t try to educatetheir customers
because
it is usually less profitable than playing to customermisconceptions
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Fortunately I have more freedom than they do, because I’m not selling a product, just offering information. If you find useful information here, you can help spread the word by clicking the Sharing links at the top or bottom, posting on your gun forum, or telling a friend. I welcome any suggestions for improvements; leave a comment on the page. It’s been gratifying to publish this site now for over five years. It slowly rose to, and has remained at, the top of many gun safe-related internet searches, despite underhanded competitors. It’s been great to get feedback from readers and see links in gun forums. I’ve even received pictures of custom built-in gun safes, fabricated after reading my articles. The best part though, is that gun safe consumers have gotten more educated. Products are actually improving. I’ve had to update articles, several times now, because bad gun safes I criticized were discontinued or upgraded. When I started this site, there was one handgun safe I could heartily recommend. Now there are multiple models from several manufacturers.
Good gun safes also have gotten better. Both my best gun safe forthe money
models have added worthwhile steel upgrade options. I’m happy to have played whatever part I have in gun owners getting more for ourhard-earned money.
------------------------- Ready to get started? Head over to the first article 16 Reasons to Own a Gun Safe (and 12 Reasons Not To).
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