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BERNIE SANDERS' PLANS MAY BE EXPENSIVE BUT INACTION WOULD COST MUCHMORE
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Facing existential challenges, we must spend heavily on a Green New Deal, Medicare for All and similar plans Sun 23 Feb 2020 01.00 EST Last modified on Sun 23 Feb 202009.47 EST
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In Wednesday night’s Democratic debate, the former South Bend mayor Pete Buttigieg charged that the Vermont senator Bernie Sanders’ policy proposals would cost $50tn. Holy Indiana. 'AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND': WISCONSIN'S FARMERS SEE BLEAK FUTURERead more
Larry Summers, formerly chief White House economic adviser for Barack Obama, puts the price tag at $60tn. “We are in a kind of new era of radical proposal,” he told CNN.
Maya MacGuineas, president of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, claims
Sanders’ agenda would at least double federal spending. Putting aside the accuracy of these cost estimates, they omit the other side of the equation: what, by comparison, is the cost of doingnothing?
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might be expensive but doing nothing about climate change will almost certainly cost far more. California is already burning, the midwest and south are flooding, New England is eroding, Florida is sinking. If we don’t launch something as bold as a Green New Deal, we’ll spend trillions coping with the consequences of our failure to be bold.Medicare for All
will cost a lot, but the price of doing nothing about America’s increasingly dysfunctional healthcare system will soon be in the stratosphere. The nation already pays more for healthcare per person and has worse health outcomes than any other advanced country. A new study in the Lancet estimates that Medicare for All would save $450bn and prevent 68,000 unnecessarydeaths each year.
Investing in universal childcare, public higher education and woefully outdated and dilapidated infrastructure will be expensive too, but the cost of not making these investments would be astronomical. American productivity is already suffering and millions of families can’t afford decent childcare, college or housing – whose soaring costs are closely related to inadequate transportation and water systems. Focusing only on the costs of doing something about these problems without mentioning the costs of doing nothing is misleading, but this asymmetry is widespread. Journalists wanting to appear serious about public policy continue to rip into Sanders and the Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren(whose policies
are almost as ambitious) for the costs of their proposals but never ask self-styled moderates like Buttigieg how they plan to cope with the costs of doing nothing or too little. A related criticism of Sanders and Warren is that they haven’t come up with ways to pay for their proposals. Sanders “only explained $25tn worth of revenue, which means the hole in there is bigger than the size of the entire economy of the United States”, chargedButtigieg.
Sanders’ and Warren’s wealth taxes would go a long way toward paying for their plans. But even if it paid a small fraction of the costs of their proposals, so what? As long as every additional dollar of spending reduces by more than a dollar the future costs of climate change, inadequate healthcare and insufficient public investment, it makes sense to spendmore.
Republican administrations have doled out gigantic tax cuts to big corporations and the wealthy without announcing specific cuts in public spending or other tax increases because – despite decades of evidence to the contrary – they claim the cuts will generate economic growth that will more than make up for any lost revenue. Yet when Warren and Sanders propose ambitious plans for reducing empirically verifiable costs of large and growing public problems, they are skewered by fellow Democrats and the press for not having ways to pay for them. A third line of criticism is that Sanders’ and Warren’s proposals are just too big: they’re risky, they may fail or have unintended consequences, they’ll be difficult to implement. This argument might be convincing if the problems Sanders and Warren address were growing slowly. But if anything, they’re speeding up. Experts on the environment, health, education and infrastructure are nearly unanimous: these problems are worsening exponentially. Climate change is upon us; the environment is altering far more quickly than scientists feared even a few years ago. The cost of health insurance is soaring, as are the costs of preventive care. So too with childcare, college and a crumbling infrastructure. And let’s not forget widening inequality, as most families continue to face stagnant wages while wealth and power accumulate at the top.Twitter Pinterest
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On all these fronts, the cost of doing nothing is surging. Cautious incrementalism is wise under most circumstances. But where headwinds are turning into a gale, incrementalism drives us backwards. One of the least-acknowledged costs of the Trump years is how far the failure to address these growing problems has set us back. Dubbing Sanders and Warren “extremists” or “radicals” is absurd when they are seeking to remedy problems which themselves are extreme and will radically harm Americans if left unattended. The status quo is not sustainable. BARACK OBAMA ISN'T RUNNING IN 2020 – SO WHY IS HE IN ALL THECAMPAIGN ADS?
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Young people understand this, perhaps because they will bear more of the costs of inaction. An Emerson poll of Iowa found that 44% of Democrats under 50 support Sanders and 10% favor Warren. No other candidate reached double digits. In New Hampshire, Sanders won more voters under 30 than the other candidates combined, according to CNNexit polls.
The reason to support Sanders’ and Warren’s proposals isn’t because they inspire and mobilize voters. It is because they arenecessary.
We can no longer pretend that climate change, a wildly dysfunctional healthcare system and a yawning deficit in public investment pose insignificant challenges. Doing nothing or doing too little will make them far worse. Obsessing about the cost of addressing them without acknowledging the cost of failing to address them is dangerouslyirresponsible.
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JohnSkookum
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All moot. Bernie Sanders has as much chance to beat Trump this year as the ghost of George McGovern.Reply
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I'm in Australia, so my comments are from the heart rather than because of political affiliation in the USA. I like the look of Sanders - much more so than Hillary, whose main attraction for me was another round of having Bill around. However, I just can't help believing that the USA voters don't like change. They are not just Conservative, but also very conservative. Will they go for someone that will genuinely do things differently, and in the ways that Bernie Sanders claims? I suspect not. Similarly, I suspect that the Democratic Party are not open to anything at all out of the ordinary. The biggest enemy of the Democratic candidate getting elected is almost certainly the orientation and conviction of the party's power brokers. Old, conservative men and women. They would almost certainly prefer Biden, because Biden would appeal to enough Republican voters also, something that Sanders will never do. However, there is almost certainly more of the Ukraine story to come out, and it is possible that Joe Biden would be unelectable as more of the facts emerge. No doubt the Republicans would hold back any interesting revelations until far too late for a change of candidate. So, we may well be able to expect a Sanders/Trump election. In which I am sure that conservative Democrats will vote for Trump rather thanSanders.
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The nation picked up a New York real estate dealer and put him in the Oval Office. A conman does what he is supposed to do - lie, cheat and falsify the facts. Blame no one but ourselves.Reply
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What's bloated are a lot of promises from people with far less of a background of public service to offer beyond VP Biden & Sen. Sanders. The rest squander their monies on what largely dilutes public attention, vital to triumph in the road ahead to trample faked votes by any fake precedent.Reply
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harrynutzek
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Plenty money for bloated military and corporate tax subsidies but not for Medicare for all and education. This is not complicated, tax the companys and rich the way they should be taxed, cut down on military spending, and all will be paid for andthen some.
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Tedami7
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There is never money for improving people's lives but somehow it can always be found for wars to destroy lives. It is time our leaders realised that we are in the midst of the deadliest war of all - the war against global extinction. The thing we cannot afford is losing.Reply
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The masters of war need to be taken down a peg or two. The dollar wastage involved is both epic & pointlessly dysfunctional.Reply
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PhilosophicalSquid
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Great, but spare us uncompromising else Trump will win. The MOST important reality immediately in front everyone is to voteTrump OUT.
Vote Blue No matter who for the Planets sake! We do not have time for more denial. We do not have time for more political instabilty. We do not have time for trade wars. We do not have time for partisan political manouvering. We do not have time for political egos. We must unite to act together. All else flows from this, the planets ability to sustain us under the strain we have imposed.Reply
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Bloomberg promised to spend up to a billion dollars to unseat Trump, even if he doesn't become the nominee. He's spent more than half a billion. Does anybody really think he won't spend the rest on himself? OK, he may save $1.00 to give to the nominee while teasing with a carrot for a few more weeks so he doesn't get criticized as harshly by other candidates who haven't figured this out yet. This is as truthful as Wall Street billionaires ever get.Reply
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njglea
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I wonder if Bernie bros are having my comments on him removed. I made comments on two articles yesterday, including this one, and they wereboth removed.
The media seems to love INDEPENDENT, no-plans Bernie and are intent on making us believe that after just three small-state primary caucuses and elections he is the front-runner. It's too early and they must stop "delcaring" winners and losers because it causes people to act like lemmings and join the "pack". That's how The Con Don got elected. Primary elections have just started across OUR United States of America and the media must allow WE THE PEOPLE to choose OUR favorite candidates to represent US at the National Democratic Convention. I love Senator Elizabeth Warren for President because she has the courage, knowledge, plans and can-do spirit to take on corruption in OUR systems. She wants to tax every dollar of wealth over $50 MILLION two cents to fund OUR social safety net and BIG money is afraid of her. How greedy and entitled can they be? She has a very good plan to put the Green New Deal to work creating good-paying union jobs for Americans. Check out her plans at elizabethwarren.com. One of my friends who is historcally republican and conservative did so at my prodding and is voting for her in the Washington State primary election on March 10. Please give Senator Warren a chance to work for 99.9% of us as OUr President and vote for her in your primary election.Reply
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dw1989
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Here is a link about how Sanders could not come up with how to pay for All his free programs without substantially raising taxes on the Middle Class. This was on 60 Minutes. The price tag for his agenda is 60 extra trillion dollars over ten years, but Sanders has only found about 23 trillion dollars to fund it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.htmlReply
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It was Trump who got in first with the rerouting of his $Trillion Dollar initiative aka socialism for billionaires away from middle & working America & into the portfolios of the billionaires who neededit not.
Wasteful & without benefit has been the MO @ the W.H. ever since trump gifted the establishment with what should have remained with middle &working America.
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I agree 100% on opposing 45's tax cuts on the rich. I just believe we can cover everyone for healthcare, fight climate change and making college affordable without increasing the Federal budget by 60 trillion dollars over 10 years. Sanders readily admits his plans would cost that much. Pete's plan would cover everyone, but only increase Federal spending by 1.5 trillion dollars over 10 years. His plan might not make healthcare totally free at the point of service, but he would reduce insurance premiums and deductibles for a great number of people. https://peteforamerica.com/policies/health-care/Reply
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"Focusing only on the costs of doing something about these problems without mentioning the costs of doing nothing is misleading" Absolutely. Furthermore, the costs we are ALREADY bearing are seldom covered properly. The CDC estimated 91% of Americans were covered by health insurance in 2018. Under the most expensive health care system in the world. With ONLY the anticipated administrative cost savings in a Medicare For All program we'd be able to cover everyone for the same overall money we spend ALREADY.Reply
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CHAjingo232doing
11h ago
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But the cost to the Government would be substantially higher, 30 trillion dollars higher over 10 years. Our government is already spending a lot on healthcare.Reply
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RobertKennedy
dw1989
8h ago
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Healthcare U.S. style is famously wasteful, overly expensive & a failure in regard to covering all the citizens. There have been some great initiatives originating from the U.S. that have been taken up in Europe (eg) National Parks but Europe, Australia, New Zealand & S.Korea can teach American Health Care designers how to create much better & inclusive ‘health systems’. I didn’t mention Canada but there’s plenty to learn north of the border as well. For American health care designers it is time to produce somethingbetter.
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RobertKennedy
7h ago
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I have read stories on people coming to the U.S. from other countries for cutting edge Cancer treatments.Reply
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piper909
12h ago
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They're not expensive compared to the alternative we're paying now (those who have a health plan). It's well documented how Americans pay more and receive less quality treatment than citizens of other rich nations. There's also tremendous waste in the bloated military budget -- cutting this to reasonable levels will pay for national healthcare.
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KMdude
12h ago
3 4
IMO Sanders’s proposals will be a disaster but it’s all a moot point. After last night’s interview on 60 Minutes Sanders destroyed his presidential ambitions. I mean, the guy praised Castro’s alleged literacy accomplishments in Cuba. This was one of the stupidest statements I’ve ever heard apolitician say.
Trump will play this sound bite over and over if Sanders is his opponent. It will cost Sanders Florida and terrify many Americans who are rightly skeptical of his socialist proposals.Reply
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GladysGlover
KMdude
12h ago
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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe Americans are wondering why they have worse literacy outcomes than Cuba.Reply
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rcbarcham KMdude
12h ago
8 9
UNESCO cites Cuba’s literacy rate as 99.75% of the population 15 and older. This is impressive and Senator Sanders is not misguided inpointing it out.
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KMdude rcbarcham
12h ago
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I wouldn’t put much trust in these statistics as they’re provided by the Cuban government. In any case this is besides the point. A certain German fascist was a terrible person but he built the Autobahn. This was an accomplishment but nobody is praising this. Sanders should not be praising Castro’s alleged accomplishments and this will come back to haunt him.Reply
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GettingStarted
13h ago
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Even if Bernie get elected, there is a snowballs chance in heck of universal healthcare passing. Besides the cost of the program, the impact to our exploitive insurance ecosystem would wipe out well over a million jobs. The political capital needed to do this would make Brexit look like a routine budget adjustment bill. While I definitely want Trump out, unfortunately I see Bern wasting a lot of time and effort on this signature policy, and not much coming out of it.Reply
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truthtinkle
GettingStarted
13h ago
2 3
I mentioned I didn't like Bernie's policies and was informed that apparently I get all my information from Fox news.Reply
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GladysGlover
GettingStarted
13h ago
5 6
They can get other jobs the same way Elevator operators and buggy drivers got other jobs. Protecting a bloated inefficient industry is not what capitalism you say you love so much is supposed to be about. Medicare for all is easier than you think. The infrastrauctue is already there. Lower the participant age in stages and there you go. Private insurance will still be around as an adjunct.Reply
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MarkitDave
GettingStarted
12h ago
5 6
30 million Americans don't have health insurance and loads more have insufficient health insurance..that's Americans, not undocumented immigrants or illegals, actual Americans who pay taxes, who contribute to society, who pay for the golden ticket healthcare and pensions that their government representatives get. How can America honest afford not to give these people some form of healthcare. Why should so many millions of Americas go without life saving essential medicine (like insulin) just because the ridiculous profit centers (the health insurance companies) in the middle want to pay money to their share holders? People here in the US are buying dog insulin because they can't afford the $500/month. Companies (and individuals) pay tens of thousands/per person to health insurance companies every year, scrap all of them and pay the same amount into a single fund, that would be more than enough to fund universal healthcare.Reply
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GladysGlover
13h ago
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Think of how much the dust bowl crisis of the 30s cost and multiply it by thousands if not millions. That is what's coming. If Bernie can get even one tenth of his agenda passed I'll take those odds because I know nobody else in the field cares about anything other than protecting their donors.Reply
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harrynutzek
14h ago
6 7
People that aren't behind bernie seem to generally have a deep misunderstanding of what goes on in our societies, or are too far removed in their ivory towers to know or care.Reply
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baldisgood
14h ago
2 3
Everybody is missing the central issue.:: "Perceptions" are as important as "Facts". In our uneducated, deeplyreligious
(evangelicals,,,),, deeply racist society,, we have to pick the battles that we can win. Tell the people in Penn. (a crucial state), that Progressives (Bernie)will ban
fracking.. (a booming industry)...They'll vote against you. As simpleas that.
I am not talking about the actual Fracking,,,,, the actual effect ofclimate change...
all of these issues are of course important.. My point is that,,weneed to Beat Trump.
and the battle grounds are Penn. Ohio, Wis. Mich...Reply
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abeastwood
14h ago
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I'm always amused that the same people who proclaim that the US is the richest country in the word say universal health care would be too expensive for us. I assume they are ignorant that the other 31 major countries in the world some how manage to do it.Reply
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MarkitDave
abeastwood
11h ago
5 6
As someone who has lived in New Zealand, Australia, the UK and now the US and has experience healthcare in all these countries (via my kids and elderly mother), I can tell you, yes they are ignorant. When I tell my US work mates that my mother fell ill in NZ saw a local doctor, was then in Hospital for a week before getting back home to Australia and then in Hospital for three more weeks...and paid nothing...zero..zip...they don't believe me, she must have paidsomething?
Or my son had a liver transplant in the UK, in the world's most successful pediatric transplant unit and it cost us nothing, they honestly can't understand it. What amazes me is how people say "_but your tax in the UK is really high_", yes, but in the UK my employer didn't pay 20,000 a year for my health insurance. In the UK I didn't pay thousands every year in deductibles/co-pay. In the UK my son's prescription cost was £5 per item (now £9) not $500. So when Americans ask "_Where's the money going to come from to pay for all this?_"...you already pay for it, it's just rather than going to share holders...it's going to go towards actual healthcare...not just a company that calls itself a "healthcare provider" but in reality provides no actual health care.Reply
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MarkitDave
11h ago
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Of course this is true. But, let me give you the answer you'll getanyway.
Oh, You ain't liking it heiree,,git,,,the..h**l . owt..Reply
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MarkitDave
baldisgood
11h ago
4 5
My being here actually improves your social services. I am not eligible to receive social services, so I have to work, I have to pay taxes to maintain my visa, I'm doing you a favor, I pay loads and take very little. Bizarrely, I'm even doing exactly the same job I was doing in the UK, just now sitting in the US, so I'm not even taking ajob off anyone.
Having lived in lots of other countries I can see universal healthcare is easily achievable, the US already has fantastic hospitals, doctors, nurses...what's killing it is the health insurance profit centers inthe middle.
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cookcounty
15h ago
3 4
_ As long as every additional dollar of spending reduces by more than a dollar the future costs of climate change, inadequate healthcare and insufficient public investment, it makes sense to spend more. _ Incoherent nonsense. The Green New Deal - which includes replacing air travel with high-speed rail (check the California fiasco to see how this has worked out so far) and retrofitting every single building in the country - will easily cost more than mitigating the effects of climate change in the USA. Or does Mr. Reich include the global cost of mitigating climate change? Also, how does he explain the fact that figures just released by the International Energy Agency show that the US reduced its carbon emissions ion 2019 by more than any other country? I thought this wasn't supposed to happen after Trump withdrew from the Paris climate accord. As to the future cost of "inadequate health care," Mr. Reich offers not a shred of evidence as to what this cost will be. Right now 160 million Americans are satisfied the health care they have and Medicare for All, by definition, takes this away from them and replaces it with a government run plan -- brought to you by the same people who managed the Iowa caucus. No surprise that it's an electoral loser -- as Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg, abnd Klobuchar have pointed out in sound bytes that will certain be part of Republican commercials.Reply
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cookcounty
15h ago
0 1
Wish he would address the real "Elephant in the room" , nuclear weapons. Unless we get this situation under control of some kind, we won't need healthcare or the New Green Deal. Think Sanders has a better chance of going for a Moon walk than accomplishing anything he is proposing. Just remember a favorite quote, " the best government is the least government" so stay out of our healthcare and concentrate on what governments do best, pretty much nothing IMO. Shuffle the papers on the desk, go to some meetings, have a drink. It's on us anyway.Reply
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cookcounty
15h ago
8 9
Meh, I'd argue your logical fallacies, but I'm coming to believe that people arguing against doing as much as possible about climate change are probably industry bots.Reply
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ZombieMessiah
15h ago
2 3
News flash: it's possible to be concerned about climate change and at the same time believe that a given proposed solution is nuts. Or is climate change the only issue in history for which every proposed solution is automatically good because the underlying cause is good?Reply
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truthtinkle
16h ago
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I took a look at Bernie's webpage. I hope he doesn't win. after a quick review of his policies I'd say I'm against most of them. Forexample:
"End the housing crisis by investing $2.5 trillion to build nearly 10 million permanently affordable housing units." Seems one of many giveaways he plans.
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truthtinkle
15h ago
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And the cost of letting growth in housing costs continue to outpacewage growth?
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harrynutzek
truthtinkle
14h ago
4 5
Back to fox news with you! And open a book or two while you're at it!Reply
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harrynutzek
13h ago
1 2
Having a different view doesn't mean I watch Fox news. You might want to look at a book or two as well.Reply
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suddenoakdeath
17h ago
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Most of the candidates have good policies. Expense is certainly a concern, but the main obstacle to any legislation right now is Moscow Mitch. He won't even put things on the floor. Bernie and Reich could offer some ideas as to how his policies and programs will result in the legislation required to implement them. A revolution in the street isn't going to get the GOP to budge. People for better or worse like their private insurance.Reply
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T0nyN
suddenoakdeath
14h ago
4 5
So give up on democracy then?Reply
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T0nyN
14h ago
0 1
If Bernie had been truly committed to implementing the programs which are the underpinning of his platform then he would have helped with down tickets years ago. He has recently, but that is probably to little to late. He isn't even concerned with hanging to the democrats in the senate that we do have - he maligns many of them. He often criticizes Obama. So where is Bernie's coalition? AOC's legislative district may disappear and even if it doesn't she will face competitors in a primary. Posing the questions that I have in no way implies that we should give up on democracy.Reply
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suddenoakdeath
14h ago
2 3
So why have primaries then? If not to offer new ideas?Reply
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jmacWA
17h ago
0 1
I support most of the polices of Warren and Sanders... However, until I see Sanders announce a VP pick, I am holding off on outright support of him. Who knows who he will pick... he may not want to run with aDemocrat
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13h ago
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Nina Turner
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robottalker jmacWA
12h ago
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Seriously? VPs do nothing. Who cares who the VP is.Reply
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robottalker
11h ago
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Actually, VPs do a lot more than nothing if they are good VPs. A good choice brings votes that might otherwise not be there, and acts as a surrogate for the President both abroad and at home, and works closely with the Congress to get the Presidents agendas through. As of now I think that Yang, Warren, or Steyer, possibly Gabbard might be potentially good choices. I'm not sure that any of the centrists would actually work very hard to help implement any of what Sanders wants to do, far more likely they would try to stall his agendas to curry favor with their donors. A female or minority VP would be a good move, I think, for more than the obvious reasons, especially if they are relatively young. The Democratic Party has absolutely sucked at grooming young new talent, they need to start prepping fro the period beyond the current leaders'lifetimes.
In a fantasy world, Sanders + AOC would be a killer ticket, but I don't think the US is quite ready for that yet.Reply
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woundedduck
18h ago
7 8
To quote Daniel Mackler, the world is like a low bottom alcoholic, and won't be willing to address global warming or wealth inequality until things get really, really, really, really bad. Or elect Bernie anddeal with it now.
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woundedduck
16h ago
4 5
And what can Bernie really do about climate change? Spending isn't a viable option in my opinion. In fact, just the opposite. People need to cut back on their extravagant and wasteful spending on climate changing causes. Walk instead of being transported to schools. Scrap all business jets, yachts, SUVs, Semi trucks. Start living basically local. Forget professional sports entirely, fuel getting to and from the games is hurting the environment. So, unless we want to spend less money, instead of more which isn't needed, we will have no positive effects on climate change, because no wants to do a human change. A real paradigm change, not just politician blab. They sound good but really, not much they can do.Reply
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TheBorderGuard
18h ago
3 4
> Facing existential challenges, we must spend heavily on a Green New > Deal, Medicare for All and similar plansWe?
I've responded on my own. I drive a small electric car. I walk, cycle and take public transport when possible. I've been a vegetarian for years. I volunteer to keep our streets and beaches clean. I keep myself in reasonably good shape, trying to reduce medical costs and leave dollars on the table for those who really need it. Most people could do these things on their own. They're not impossible. They'd go a long way to solving 'existential problems', and don't require costly government programmes.Reply
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suddenoakdeath
TheBorderGuard
17h ago
2 3
Amen! "I walk, cycle and take public transport when possible." So many who claim to be concerned about climate change don't walk anywhere. Keeping in good shape keeps our health care costs down. Good for you.Reply
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JonShone
TheBorderGuard
16h ago
8 9
Good for you. Unfortunately if the way we generate electricity, run the transport system, build, invest and farm stays as business as usual, then your efforts will have been in vain. Reaching zero emissions can’t be done by individual actions alone even if 10 times the amount of people did it. We can’t just go “a long way to solving the problem” ( and how far individual actions will take us is debatable) we have to go allthe way.
As I said, good for you though.Reply
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JonShone
16h ago
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So we will indulge ourselves until we can "go all the way."Reply
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GraemeHenchel
18h ago
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Trump is a very very sick man in both physical and mental health. I’d be surprised if he even makes it to November.Reply
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GraemeHenchel
11h ago
0 1
You'd hope so, with all the burgers, his lack of exercise, daily spraying of (what surely must be toxic) cheetos orange spray tan, not too mention whatever he sprays on his head...surely that glows in thedark?
Unfortunately, Bernie, Bloomberg and Biden are all older than Trump and Warren's only a few years younger.Reply
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